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in charge or obama basically of the republicans are just as bad as far as we're concerned they're corrupt and are out of touch in southern former confederate states like north carolina culture and social issues play a big role for those like harold cruz who believes the u.s. is too big and thus destined to fail north carolina and the south general. were different country already and the united states and we simply need our own government we have different values different belief systems critics have dismissed secessionists as disgruntled voters angry over president obama's second term however in this you thousand a presidential election obama became the first democrat in more than thirty years to win north carolina a red state turned blue with the promise of change four years later tens of thousands of voters in the very same state believe they'd be better off on their own. the average american the things they believe in they're tired of the endless wars and here we are talking about invading iran now i can't think of anything more the white house meanwhile promises to review and issue an
in charge or obama basically of the republicans are just as bad as far as we're concerned they're corrupt and are out of touch in southern former confederate states like north carolina culture and social issues play a big role for those like harold cruz who believes the u.s. is too big and thus destined to fail north carolina and the south general. were different country already and the united states and we simply need our own government we have different values different belief systems critics...
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barack obama has announced. a sixty billion dollars aid package for the states worst hit by superstorm sandy. the request has to get approval from republicans and democrats the president's team has also proposed to make the package immune to any spending cuts due to urgent one time made. a goal must be for recovery plans comes as he negotiates with the republicans to avoid this so-called fiscal cliff the sort of spending a rise arises and talks cards that are set to take effect on the first of january and could be ruinous to the komi but does the average american fear the new mean do you also use new york resident trying to find out. america is about to go over the fiscal cliff are you worried what should we do about it this week let's talk about that do you know the fiscal cliff. do you think a lot of americans do so then why is the media talking about it incessantly well i i guess i have not as informed as i should be but i just kind of figure it might work out do you think most people feel that way you know y
barack obama has announced. a sixty billion dollars aid package for the states worst hit by superstorm sandy. the request has to get approval from republicans and democrats the president's team has also proposed to make the package immune to any spending cuts due to urgent one time made. a goal must be for recovery plans comes as he negotiates with the republicans to avoid this so-called fiscal cliff the sort of spending a rise arises and talks cards that are set to take effect on the first of...
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president obama trying to argue the republican plan wouldn't work suggested that the g.o.p. would eliminate charitable deductions altogether. >> if you eliminate charitable deductions, ever hospital and university and non-for profit agency, across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. >> destroying every charity in the country as a powerful political argument no republican plan to eliminate the charitable deductions. oddly enough the president himself long favored capping deductions at 28%. also in his current budget. >> a different way to do that, that would raise $600 billion over ten years. >> analysts say that 50 $50,000 cap the g.o.p. suggested would raise more than that. some $750 billion. the arguement that limiting deductions would hurt charities was dismissed by mr. obama himself back in 2009. >> i think this was a good idea. a realistic way for to us raise revenue from people who benefited enormously in the last several years. >> making the wealthy pay is not the focus of the charitable community. it fear money charity would have received in d
president obama trying to argue the republican plan wouldn't work suggested that the g.o.p. would eliminate charitable deductions altogether. >> if you eliminate charitable deductions, ever hospital and university and non-for profit agency, across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. >> destroying every charity in the country as a powerful political argument no republican plan to eliminate the charitable deductions. oddly enough the president himself long...
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does president obama have the whip hand in all these negotiations, and are the republicans about to be blamed big-time for falling off their own fiscal cliff? joining me now is ace pollster scott rasmussen. i just did a little tv gig with scott, who's in about 60 cities across the country. all right, scott. you heard timothy geithner. he said if they don't raise taxes on the rich, they were going to go over the fiscal cliff. but at the end of the day, if we do fall over the fiscal cliff, if taxes go december 31st, will the republican party be blamed? >> absolutely. right now, people aren't convinced that either the president or congressional republicans are serious about negotiating. but they're a lot more willing to believe that the president is negotiating in good faith. >> and let me ask you. is the republican party therefore becoming the party of the rich, defending the top tax brackets, and is obama becoming the party of the middle class? >> absolutely. and larry, the reason the republicans are in this fix right now is because they think these discussions and negotiations are abou
does president obama have the whip hand in all these negotiations, and are the republicans about to be blamed big-time for falling off their own fiscal cliff? joining me now is ace pollster scott rasmussen. i just did a little tv gig with scott, who's in about 60 cities across the country. all right, scott. you heard timothy geithner. he said if they don't raise taxes on the rich, they were going to go over the fiscal cliff. but at the end of the day, if we do fall over the fiscal cliff, if...
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it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the senate. i'm going to guarantee you that the democrats in the senate are going to be split on this business of who's rich and what the right tax rates are going to be. >> i have to leave it there, chaps. nick, larry, thank you both much, indeed. >>> coming up next, kerry kennedy joins me about fame, politics and most important of all, taylor swift. like a lot of things, trying to find a better job can be frustrating. so at university of phoenix we're working with a growing list of almost two thousand corporate partners - companies like microsoft, american red cross and adobe - to create options for you. not only that, we're using what we learn from these partners to shape our curriculum, so that when you find the job you want you'll be a perfect fit. let's get to work. >>> kerry kennedy's been in the public eye for
it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the senate. i'm going to guarantee you that the democrats in the senate are going to be split on this business of who's rich and what the right tax rates are going to be. >> i have to leave it there, chaps. nick, larry,...
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so, president obama is taking action and insisting that republicans agree to increase the existing marginal tax rates on the wealthiest top 2% of u.s. taxpayers. and of course, there is more to the deal. but there will be no negotiations on that big part of the deal unless that tax on the wealthiest 2% is negotiated now. the president could not be more emphatic in stressing the indispensable element of surmounting the cliff is that super-rich revenue. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite. or out of any kind of partisan bickering. but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> okay. here is john boehner, the republican house speaker. >> if you look at the plans that the white house have talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. >> republicans proposed raising $800 billion in extra revenues. and that revenue should come through tax reform and closing loopholes. happy new year. question, patrick, looking into the crystal ball and tell us about this january 1 monetary nuclear bomb. are we going over the cliff, patrick? >> i think i
so, president obama is taking action and insisting that republicans agree to increase the existing marginal tax rates on the wealthiest top 2% of u.s. taxpayers. and of course, there is more to the deal. but there will be no negotiations on that big part of the deal unless that tax on the wealthiest 2% is negotiated now. the president could not be more emphatic in stressing the indispensable element of surmounting the cliff is that super-rich revenue. >> we're not insisting on rates just...
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it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the senate. i'm going to guarantee you that the democrats in the senate are going to be split on this business of who's rich and what the right tax rates are going to be. >> i have to leave it there, chaps. nick, larry, thank you both much, indeed. >>> coming up next, kerry kennedy joins me about fame, politics and most important of all, taylor swift.ta alka-seltzs cold & cough... [ buzz! ] take dayquil. use nyquil d... [ ding! ] ...and get longer nighttime cough relief. use tylenol cold multisymptom nighttime... [ coughs ] [ buzz! ] [ screams ] ...and you could find yourself... honey? ...on the couch. nyquil d. 50% longer cough and stuffy nose relief. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. ♪ the lexus december to remember sal
it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the senate. i'm going to guarantee you that the democrats in the senate are going to be split on this business of who's rich and what the right tax rates are going to be. >> i have to leave it there, chaps. nick, larry,...
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therthere are a thousand ways to solve this but all obama and the republicans seem to be doing is fighting over taxes which is a tiny piece of the whole issue. >> and the interesting thing is if president obama had his increase in taxes on the wealthy, the so-caldwell thee, that would fund the government eight and a half days this year. >> by the time they finished increasing spending, we'll be down to seven. >seven. >> sean: coming up more with speaker of the house newt gingrich, plus we continue to monitor breaking news out of syria. fox news has confirmed the syria government has mixed sarin gas and is ready to use it against their own people. we'll talk with ann coulter as we track the fiscal cliff negotiations. does the average american know what exactly this is? we went to the streets of new york to find out. >> it was something i probably learned about in school, but i'm guessing it's like a cliff like guessing it's like a cliff like a you won't take my life. you won't take our future. aids affects us all. even babies. chevron is working to stop mother-to-child transmission. our emp
therthere are a thousand ways to solve this but all obama and the republicans seem to be doing is fighting over taxes which is a tiny piece of the whole issue. >> and the interesting thing is if president obama had his increase in taxes on the wealthy, the so-caldwell thee, that would fund the government eight and a half days this year. >> by the time they finished increasing spending, we'll be down to seven. >seven. >> sean: coming up more with speaker of the house newt...
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>> it's hard for me to see how the republicans emerge from this well. they are turning the retreat they began november 6th into a republican route i think right now because in their hearts they don't believe what they are doing is right. >> so what do they do? >> it's like a doctor coming in and saying, look, you can give this kidney more heroin, it will kill him. that's what is hurting them and the other doctors come in and say we have to steady and put him on a diet of a little more of this stuff and the other doctor said, no, i'm not going to help you out, i'm not doing that. >> that's what the conservatives in the house are saying to boehner we are going the wrong way. >> then you go off the cliff and go exactly what you said. >> it would be a terrible blow. what the republicans should have done in the beginning is mr. president what do we agree on? we agree on cuts. that's the only thing they agree on. they disagree on tax. why would you get into an argument on tacks and not work on the rest. >> they want $800 billion from the rich and boehner said
>> it's hard for me to see how the republicans emerge from this well. they are turning the retreat they began november 6th into a republican route i think right now because in their hearts they don't believe what they are doing is right. >> so what do they do? >> it's like a doctor coming in and saying, look, you can give this kidney more heroin, it will kill him. that's what is hurting them and the other doctors come in and say we have to steady and put him on a diet of a...
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and i think that, that-- you know, that bloodbath hasn't ended within the republican party. we're going to see at least another cycle of it. >> schieffer: let's talk about the more immediate things, and that is the next obama administration. one of the things that strikes me, and you brought it up in the green room a while ago, joe, we have not seen the administration nominate anybody. >> anybody. >> schieffer: to any office here. we're a month into-- after the election, and we've had all the controversy over susan rice, and who know where's tha that is? what's happening? what's going on here? >> well, the administration is, as it says, studying all its options. what it's trying to figure out a way if in fact it wants to make the susan rice fight which is visually going to be a difficult fight, and if it does, how hard will it fight and how far is it willing to push? there are those who argue, look, if you put cbs news rice in the national security council and i will put senator kennedy up-- >> kerry. >> senator kerry from the senate up to nominate for secretary of state. th
and i think that, that-- you know, that bloodbath hasn't ended within the republican party. we're going to see at least another cycle of it. >> schieffer: let's talk about the more immediate things, and that is the next obama administration. one of the things that strikes me, and you brought it up in the green room a while ago, joe, we have not seen the administration nominate anybody. >> anybody. >> schieffer: to any office here. we're a month into-- after the election, and...
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have republicans take a step back and give president obama what he wants. >> i've got to get out. thanks to both of you. >> thank you. >> howard dean, we preeshtd it. and katie pavelich, we appreciate it. >>> egypt's government deployed tanks around the presidential palace today after clashes with protesters killed seven people. in syria, meanwhile, rebels continue to advance on damascus, prompting concern that president assad's regime will respond with chemical weapons. question, should the u.s. intervene in any of these here now is mark ginsburg, former white house middle east advisor. welcome back, mark. here's the thing. we drew a red line, president obama drew a red line over these chemical weapons of mass destruction. at what point do we have to start bombing them to prevent them from moving and utilizes those weapons of mass destruction? when's that happen? >> larry, the fact of the matter is that i already know some of those weapons have been moved and put into the hands of the iranian revolutionary guards operating in syria and also i believe some of it has been sold to h
have republicans take a step back and give president obama what he wants. >> i've got to get out. thanks to both of you. >> thank you. >> howard dean, we preeshtd it. and katie pavelich, we appreciate it. >>> egypt's government deployed tanks around the presidential palace today after clashes with protesters killed seven people. in syria, meanwhile, rebels continue to advance on damascus, prompting concern that president assad's regime will respond with chemical...
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i am not sure republicans will go along unless there is some give on obama's part. >> unconditional surrender, mark? >> i am not sure with the exact policy is. the president has the advantage and the factors you are seeing are on the republican side. the democrats' ranks are totally unified. but i think it is important when the president does prevail, which i think he will in this showdown, all but certain, that there be -- that it be done in a way that john boehner leaves with his dignity intact and a sense that he has achieved something. if it is just -- humiliation cannot be a byproduct. >> colby? >> it would not be a defeat for obama in any way. we go over the cliff, a stop because republicans sent over the cliff. -- it is because republicans send us over the cliff, not doing what americans want us to do. the american people think we ought to increase the rates. there is a principle there. they give on that, then the president has to do something on entitlements and put something on the table that is tangible, and we will have to deal. but if it they don't rely on those rates, we will go
i am not sure republicans will go along unless there is some give on obama's part. >> unconditional surrender, mark? >> i am not sure with the exact policy is. the president has the advantage and the factors you are seeing are on the republican side. the democrats' ranks are totally unified. but i think it is important when the president does prevail, which i think he will in this showdown, all but certain, that there be -- that it be done in a way that john boehner leaves with his...
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is some give from obama. >>>> unconditional surrerender rk? >> i am not sure what the exact policy is. the president has the advantage. the e factors are a on the republican side. and the democrats' ranknks have been totally unied. i think i.t. is important when the president does prevail which i think he will, ththat it be done in a way that john boehner, republican speaker of the house, leaves with it his dignity intact and with a sense that he has achieved something. if it is -- humiliation cannot be a byproduct of the final resolution. >> colby? >> it would not be a defeat for president obama in any w way. if we go over the cli, it iss because the republicans send us over the cliff because they refud to do what 55% of the american people want them to do, remove those rates s for the rich, the tax rates that went up under the bush plan. that is all he wants. he thinks we ought to pay more. the american people think ought to payore. there is a principle there. they give on that, the presisident has to do something on entitlements and put som
is some give from obama. >>>> unconditional surrerender rk? >> i am not sure what the exact policy is. the president has the advantage. the e factors are a on the republican side. and the democrats' ranknks have been totally unied. i think i.t. is important when the president does prevail which i think he will, ththat it be done in a way that john boehner, republican speaker of the house, leaves with it his dignity intact and with a sense that he has achieved something. if it...
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obama set this up. kind of like a dog and pony show to where it's almost like this is just aimed at the republican party. >> judge jeanine: doug, is this just about spending? is it about the taxes? is it about the debt ceiling? make no mistake. do we all agree that, you know, the elimination of congressional approval and the elimination of the debt ceiling, i mean, that would be pretty much fiscal death for all of us. >> i think it would be a mistake. i think it's about something larger which is leadership, a vision of who we are as a people. and can we have the kind of bipartisan cooperation we used to get, judge, that now is absent? it's not politics. it's recklessness as you suggest with some of the things that are requesting -- going on. ultimately i believe they could get a deal and lead us forward and both sides for their own reasons aren't. >> that would require the president who wants to humiliate and smash the republicans. >> judge jeanine: he already did. he won. >> precisely correct. >> no, n
obama set this up. kind of like a dog and pony show to where it's almost like this is just aimed at the republican party. >> judge jeanine: doug, is this just about spending? is it about the taxes? is it about the debt ceiling? make no mistake. do we all agree that, you know, the elimination of congressional approval and the elimination of the debt ceiling, i mean, that would be pretty much fiscal death for all of us. >> i think it would be a mistake. i think it's about something...
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tell us where you want to cut, republicans. that's not what president obama ran on. he ran on raising the top tax rate for the top 2%. that's what he wanted to do and what he should focus on. >> let me play what the president said in a new interview with abc regarding taxes. let's play it. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other. i think the key is to mick sure that taxes go up on high end individuals. we can afford it. it is entirely possible for us to come up with a deal, but time is running short. >> our team points out that we see the white house is being cautiously optimistic about a deal while the house republicans are cautiously pessimistic. we still have a ways to go. as you heard the president say, time is running out. what do we make. warning to house republicans that we could be working through the holidays s. that significant at this point? >> yeah. i think it's also darkest before the dawn and people have to freak out before they get ready to deal. it's not until the pressure is on and the deadline is upon us. people realize that it's going to b
tell us where you want to cut, republicans. that's not what president obama ran on. he ran on raising the top tax rate for the top 2%. that's what he wanted to do and what he should focus on. >> let me play what the president said in a new interview with abc regarding taxes. let's play it. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other. i think the key is to mick sure that taxes go up on high end individuals. we can afford it. it is entirely possible for us to come up with a deal,...
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both a republican and the democratic administration, he left his post in june, 2011. at his farewell ceremony president obama awarded him the presidential award of freedom. >> the highest honor. >> this is a man i have come to know and respect. a humble american patriot. a man of common sense and decency. quite simply one of our nation's finest public servants. >> rose: today the united states face as wave of foreign policy challenges, including the pressing question of how to respond to the potential use of chemical weapons by the assad government in syria, the government warned him of the consequence conditions consequences he could expect. >> i want to make it clear to assad and those under his command the world is watching, the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> rose: i am pleased to have bob gates back at this table. welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: so what are you doing since you left government? >> well, i
both a republican and the democratic administration, he left his post in june, 2011. at his farewell ceremony president obama awarded him the presidential award of freedom. >> the highest honor. >> this is a man i have come to know and respect. a humble american patriot. a man of common sense and decency. quite simply one of our nation's finest public servants. >> rose: today the united states face as wave of foreign policy challenges, including the pressing question of how to...
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president obama spent his day with the santana family of falls church and he says they're members of the middle class and they'll be hit hard if congress fails to extend their tax cuts. meantime virginia could be hit hard if those spending cuts end up taking place especially in places like fairfax county where federal contracting is king. >> if you go make the kind of cuts that some are suggesting happen, then you're really hurting a lot of the small buss
president obama spent his day with the santana family of falls church and he says they're members of the middle class and they'll be hit hard if congress fails to extend their tax cuts. meantime virginia could be hit hard if those spending cuts end up taking place especially in places like fairfax county where federal contracting is king. >> if you go make the kind of cuts that some are suggesting happen, then you're really hurting a lot of the small buss
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republicans don't need the fight. it's not a winning fight politically and the third thing, something i think a lot of people don't say is, it could be damaging to president obama. he wants to begin his second term, more forward looking and not lost in a sea of economic fear in the country, and people would blame him for, you know, taking away unemployment benefits, and letting taxes go up on everybody. >> chris: payroll taxes. >> right, both sides here have strong incentive to make a deal. not to mention they want to get out of town for christmas. >> chris: not to mention! bill, given all of that... you were one of the early people who said, republicans, i guess, thought we'd remind those who may have missed it... republicans don't want to be fighting over tax increases or millionaires. what is the smart play for republicans at this point and how do they get this -- because, the bit about taxes, how do they get the debate back to their issues, spending and entitlements. >> they'll do it next year, they'll pass in the
republicans don't need the fight. it's not a winning fight politically and the third thing, something i think a lot of people don't say is, it could be damaging to president obama. he wants to begin his second term, more forward looking and not lost in a sea of economic fear in the country, and people would blame him for, you know, taking away unemployment benefits, and letting taxes go up on everybody. >> chris: payroll taxes. >> right, both sides here have strong incentive to make...
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obama in announcing a red line that should bashar al assad who have murdered tens of thousands of people in the last two years k take the unthink l step -- two years, take the unthinkable step of using these weapons against his people, that there will be prompt consequences. i join this statement today to send a clear message to those from outside the halls of the capital and watch us and see divisions on policy matters, but on the matter of standing behind the president with a statement of principles that we will not stand by as assad uses weapons of mass direction against his people, something we're in a unanimous voice is, i think, the only way to effectively detour, that we can effectively call on the russians to be responsible partners, be accountable to have gotten us to this point and say we are deeply concerned about the crisis in syria and the region. this grinding, process led to a rush of refugees, and with winter, there's other humanitarian needs to be met. there is, i hope, upcoming decision to recognize the syria national council, and i, for one, commend the work of leader
obama in announcing a red line that should bashar al assad who have murdered tens of thousands of people in the last two years k take the unthink l step -- two years, take the unthinkable step of using these weapons against his people, that there will be prompt consequences. i join this statement today to send a clear message to those from outside the halls of the capital and watch us and see divisions on policy matters, but on the matter of standing behind the president with a statement of...
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house speaker john boehner offered a republican proposal this week. but president obama quickly dismissed it because it includes no tax increase for the wealthiest americans. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> there's only one person out of 307 million americans who can sign something into law. that's the president. >> a "washington post" poll shows 53% of americans will blame republicans if the nation goes over the so-called "fiscal cliff." 29% would hold the president responsible. >>> shares of pandora media fell nearly 20% in after-hours trading on a disurge asking outlook for their current quarter. the oakland-based internet radio company says it expects to lose between 6 and 9 cents a share in the 4th quarter. they reported 3rd quarter profits tripled to $2 million. that worked out to a penny a share and apparently not enough. >>> "star wars" franchise is officially gone to disneyland. federal regulators have cleared disney's $4 billion purchase. lucasfilm. filmmaker empire behind the "star wars" franchise. sale was a
house speaker john boehner offered a republican proposal this week. but president obama quickly dismissed it because it includes no tax increase for the wealthiest americans. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> there's only one person out of 307 million americans who can sign something into law. that's the president. >> a "washington post" poll shows 53% of americans will blame republicans if the nation goes over the so-called "fiscal...
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without raising tax rates. >> reporter: and the president today offered this warning to republicans. amid reports they may accept mr. obama's plan to extend tax cuts for most americans while allowing them to go up for the richest, and start the fight all over again during debt limit talks early next year. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it is a bad strategy for your businesses. and it is not a game that i will play. >> reporter: and brian, tonight, the white house is preparing in case the country does go over that fiscal cliff, budget officials have asked all federal agencies for information that they need in case of possible plans in case of those automatic spending cuts that could go in place in just 27 days. >> peter alexander at the white house for us tonight. thank you. >>> and up next, the loss today of a legend in american music. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ i took my son fishi
without raising tax rates. >> reporter: and the president today offered this warning to republicans. amid reports they may accept mr. obama's plan to extend tax cuts for most americans while allowing them to go up for the richest, and start the fight all over again during debt limit talks early next year. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it is a bad strategy for your businesses. and it is not a game that i will play. >> reporter: and brian, tonight, the white house is...
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. >> trying to lay blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president obama today wratcheted up pressure on boehner. >> nobody wants this done more than me. >> for the first time, plan for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans decide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to another hike in the nation's debt ceiling. >> we're not going to play that game next year. if congress, in any way suggests they tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default again as part of a budget negotiioion, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their meeting with small business owners and denied they are trying to punt until next year. >> i'll be here. i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with g.o.p. leaders in weeks and not offered a
. >> trying to lay blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president obama today wratcheted up pressure on boehner. >> nobody wants this done more than me. >> for the first time, plan for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans decide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare...
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since obama doesn't seem to want to give anything to the republicans, that is where i think it will end up. lou: where do you think they will end up in a war that we will end up, far more importantly? >> i think that is a great question. i don't think anybody knows. to the point of the testing, i thought the interesting point was made by president obama at the business roundtable. working towards john engler his possession to extend debt ceiling providers. that is what we are talking about. >> what is broken is taxes and the dead and spending cuts. if the president were honest and in good faith, he wouldn't be needing with a roundtable. he would be up to capitol hill. as president is not serious. >> the other thing about the debt limit is not an authorization to go into as much does he want for five years or whatever. it is a set dollar amount. how much? lou: based on past five years of the bush administration, i can assure you that it wilbe a staggering figure. especially since we have a president who is inclined to spend like hell. i don't think there's any doubt about that. the presi
since obama doesn't seem to want to give anything to the republicans, that is where i think it will end up. lou: where do you think they will end up in a war that we will end up, far more importantly? >> i think that is a great question. i don't think anybody knows. to the point of the testing, i thought the interesting point was made by president obama at the business roundtable. working towards john engler his possession to extend debt ceiling providers. that is what we are talking...